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What is Fundamentalism?
Religion at war with the modern world
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Reply · Quote scooper #1
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Subject: What is Fundamentalism?
First, let's get one thing straight. Fundamentalism is not ancient. It is a modern reaction by various believers, who think themselves orthodox, to protect their orthodoxy from encroachment by modernity. For example, American Protestant Fundamentalism began in earnest with the publication of a series of pamphlets called The Fundamentals in 1917.

As such, Fundamentalism insists on rejection of the times in which it is set. When that is as far as it goes, Fundamentalism must live with its own internal conflict, but it leaves the rest of us in peace. All too often, however Fundamentalists externalize their inner conflict -- they demand that the rest of us resolve their conflict between their beliefs and the evidence of modernity by joining with them (or submitting to them) in rejecting that evidence.

And when they do that, they engage in what Karen Armstrong calls "The Battle for God," in her book by that title. The battle can be a war of words and ballots -- one thinks of the struggles to teach Creationism in Kansas, for example -- or it can involve physical intimidation, murder, and terrorism -- from bombing abortion clinics to the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Militant, violent Fundamentalism is deeply narcissistic -- the rest of us are made to pay for the Fundamentalist's problems. It is also deeply idolatrous -- God is remade (via selective literalism in interpreting scriptures) to suit the Fundamentalist's mental (graven) Image. The Fundamentalist's obsession with attempting to please -- or getting his/her society to please -- this Image drives the Fundamentalist's inner rage, and tendency to external violence.

This is different from Orthodoxy. The Orthodox can be at peace. The Fundamentalist is fundamentally at war, both with reality and with the rest of us.
Because there is more to Religion than pleasing your Imaginary Friend.
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If what you're talking about is the character of fundamentalism then I am in certain agreement with you but I would suggest that this character flows from something which is not itself a Bad Thing but which, in the wrong hands gets perverted.

You mention Orthodoxy and that's what I am talking about. There is nothing wrong with knowing the truth even when that truth is exclusive of other, competing claims. There isn't even anything wrong with not only knowing but speaking the truth in the free market of ideas and there isn't even anything wrong with taking a stand on disputed matters.

The Orthodox have always been very good at this. Fundamentalists not so much.

But even as I say this a thought occurs to me:

The Orthodox tend to generate ecclesial documents legalizing their opinions when they can get a Pope or a group of bishops to ratify them. How is this any better than what Fundamentalists do on an individual or congregational level?

And if you'll say that they aren't Orthodox, then I have to ask, well, who on earth is?
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Anoetos,
I think we are agreed about Orthodoxy, mostly. Heck, many of my own beliefs are orthodox, even if I have an unorthodox way of stating them. Where the Orthodox differ from the Fundamentalists is that the Orthodox are trying to set an example, to be a priestly people as it were. So they try to make their churches priestly as well. They are not trying to make priestly people of everyone else, and especially not against their will. The Fundamentalists, on the other hand, have a strong tendency to try to force their beliefs on the rest of society, or at least to force society to make visible accomodation (submission?) to their beliefs. They are not content to "let your light so shine among men," rather they feel compelled to burn the rest of us alive that we might also be luminous.
Because there is more to Religion than pleasing your Imaginary Friend.
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Subject: God's Chosen People.
People who Beleive they are loved more by our Creator because they are born to a certain Tribe or have accepted a set of beliefs (those Bible facts) have the correct diet or are in some way Superior to the rest of mankind JUST tend to p██s people off...
I once gave a glass of water and a cigarette to a junky shivering in a doorway...when he looked up and our eyes locked I saw and felt Jesus...that was Living water...that's why I struggle with all this and don't just get stoned and worship trees.
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